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taxes2 by mrddixon taxes2 by mrddixon
who is most able to spend your money? who has yer best interests in mind? who can best determine the best way to allocate yer own money? you or people you have never met?

its YOUr labor its YOUR money. dont let anyone sucker you ihto a deal where you have to pay whatever they decide in exchange for whatever they decide to offer.
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KidSapiens Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2012
My labor? What labor? I'm 16.

Without taxes. I would have been dead a long time ago.

Mostly because I don't even know how to light a basic wilderness fire.
The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
"its YOUr labor its YOUR money." I agree, that's why we should stop business owners from taking our surplus value too! why stop at taxes?
mrddixon Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012
idk rabbit with a business i can shop around and decide on my own if a price is worth paying. i mean, its not that i dont agree with what yer saying. if i think a business is getting to greedy and asking for too much money for a product i will take my business elsewhere.
The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
By Surplus value, I'm referring to the value from a product or service not paid to those who created it, and instead counted as "profit." Assuming workers got paid equal to what they produced, there would be no "profit" left over. One could argue that the person who owned the factory or machinery, building etc. contributed to the value of that good or service by providing the factory or machinery etc. but continuing with the idea of getting compensated equal to what one contributes, one would break even with the cost of their investment. Profit was described by various economists during the 19th century to be equivalent to a tribute paid for protection to a crime syndicate for being simply being in "their" territory under the threat of violence (in the case of legal companies, state violence).
mrddixon Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
im not sure if im following you: how is profit like a gangster protection racket?
The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Labor is continues input for continues gain. Providing capital is finite contribution, but gets a continues gain in the form of profit. That money has to come from somewhere, it's the money not paid to the laborers for the value they created. They are essentially paying a tribute for this capital, if they don't they get threatened with force, usually through the state and legal system. Here's an entertaining comic that explains the concept [link]
mrddixon Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
im not quite getting where the threats of force come in. doesnt the worker agree to his compensation?
The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The laborer doesn't have to agree, he works or he starves, looses his house, can't pay for medicine etc. Wage slavery, or starvation because the usury of his surplus value is protected by law.
mrddixon Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012
when you say "he works or he starves" do you mean "work for a capitalist" or "work" in general? i mean, i dont see anything wrong with having to work for yer own food and housing, i certainly dont think its fair for someone else to have to do it.

rabbit i swear to god everytime i try to reply to this something comes up. i had some other shit to ask but ill leave it at this for now
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice work. While taxes are important, I think it is important they be used properly. Like maybe fixing roads or things like that not wars that are Big Oil's faux crusade.
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